Episode #100! The first ever in-person recording of the KSD podcast! Jill and Jeff reflect back on the journey so far and talk about the importance of celebrating small wins.
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Who is Jill Harris?
Jill is a nurse and health coach that specializes in educating patients on kidney stone prevention. For more than 20 years she’s helped patients understand that kidney stones can be prevented with the right treatment plan. It’s one thing to be told to lower oxalate or drink more water, but HOW do you do it? That’s where she comes in. Through the educational resources at kidneystonediet.com, stone formers can learn everything they need to know to significantly lower new stone risk.
Who is Jeff Sarris?
Jeff’s co-founder of SPYR, a branding agency based out of Chicago, where he and his business partner Dave help awesome people like Jill create online platforms that make an impact. He’s also a certified health coach, Executive Producer of the Netflix documentary Minimalism, and host of the Starting Now podcast.
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Jeff Sarris: Welcome back to the Kidney Stone Diet podcast, the show about reducing your kidney stone risk and living your best life. I’m your host and fellow student, Jeff Sarris.
Jill Harris: And I’m Jill Harris, your kidney stone prevention nurse. Oh my god! Okay, all I’m saying is this, so we are in person–and then Jeff can take it–but here’s the deal: we could never do this on a regular basis in-person because Jeff and his partner, Amara, who also works behind the scenes here, we just have too much fun together. So, this would not be efficient, I will say that. We are having a ball.
Jeff Sarris: Yeah, this is awesome! Like, we haven’t seen each other in person way too long, like podcast aside.
Jill Harris: Before COVID!
Jeff Sarris: Yeah, and it’s a distance to get here. It took you some time. I really appreciate you coming here because this is my “studio.” It’s just a different angle from what everyone always sees, but, I don’t know, it’s just fun to do and we definitely need to try to connect more in person more frequently. But time just zooms by, especially with everything that’s gone on.
Jill Harris: Yeah, here’s what’s amazing to me, so when we’re doing this in our own abodes, I mean, I’m never nervous, but I’m like frickin’ nervous right now! But yeah, I’m like, wow, this is fun. I shouldn’t say nervous. I’m just more excited. It’s just a whole different vibe doing it together, right?
Jeff Sarris: Well, yeah, and it’s fun because we have a multicamera setup now, which Amara will switch between. So, we have a producer in studio, which is kind of neat. But, yeah, do you want to switch over? So, we have this camera here, which is me, or the other one. And then this one over here. It’s a fun little setup. I’m excited. This is the first time I’m doing an in-person one, so I was just thinking, this is episode 100. So anyone listening and not watching on YouTube, you’re missing out because this is very different. People on YouTube know, already, this is nothing like what we’ve done so far because everything’s been over Zoom, side-by-side cameras, but we are both looking at each other in the flesh.
Jill Harris: I know and he’s so handsome! I mean, of course, Jeffrey’s handsome everyone knows that, but in real life I’m like, “You’re a star.” He’s a beautiful, man. Are we allowed to even say that anymore these days? I don’t know. I figure because I’m old, I can get away with a little bit un-PC stuff, but, you know, that’s just me.
Cheers to 100 Episodes!
Jeff Sarris: I mean, I think it’s fine. I’m fine with flattery, so whatever you want to do. I see Amara in my peripheral vision, laughing silently, which is perfect. We’ll have to get you a mic over there, but for episode 100, I thought it would be fun to have a little bubbly. This is not a sponsor. I know we’re not covering up the brand or anything, but I love Liquid Death. It’s ice cold. We have our little champagne glasses. So, what do you say we crack it open for a little bubbly?
Jill Harris: It’s water, people, sparkling water. Nobody wants to see me buzzed on the podcast. That ain’t cute. Most people are like, “She’s already drinkin’. She’s drunk, Henry. I think she’s drunk now!”
Jeff Sarris: But this is wild! 100 episodes! Cheers.
Jill Harris: Cheers! Amara, thank you for everything you do. Cheers! And cheers to all of our audience members that support us, our community. Without you supporting us, there may not have been 100 episodes, so we are grateful, grateful, grateful for your love and your support. So cheers to 100 episodes! Super awesome. Listen, I like liquid death. I don’t know why they wouldn’t support us. Maybe one day, but–and it’s a cool label. I don’t know if our community would love this label, but I do. I’m kind of a rock-and-roll girl. I like it.
Jeff Sarris: Well, and it’s fun because they put it in like the Tallboy cans to be like, “No, you’re drinking.” Did you ever see the commercial actually, the Superbowl commercial with the kids? That one is a riot. So anyone who hasn’t seen it, it looks like a bunch of kids getting trashed, but they’re just drinking sparkling water.
Jill Harris: Here’s what I like about their brand: so if you’re somebody who does not drink, you can not feel so like, “Are you not drinking?” with this, right? And some people are like, “Oh!” You know, they just think you’re drinking alcohol, which I mean, again, at our age, we shouldn’t have to hide the fact that we don’t want to drink if we don’t want to, but I’m just saying I think it’s a great brand. And no, they don’t. They do not sponsor us, but that’s just my feelings on it.
Jeff Sarris: Well, yeah, and who knows? Maybe one day, maybe we’ll reach out and see if they’re interested. But yeah, I thought it was perfect, too, because water. We gotta get our fluids in. It’s funny because now I feel like I’m gonna end up mirroring you. I’m like, I need to drink more.
Jill Harris: Well, and also, here’s the thing, so people will laugh because I’ll get a kidney stone thing in here by golly, you can drink sparkling water. It counts, of course, as fluid. For some people, there may be too much phosphorus in your sparkling water and if you have chronic kidney disease, that could be a problem, but for just regular old kidney stone formers without any other ailments, it’s absolutely fine to drink bubbles. That’s not a problem. It’s not my preference, overall. I like flat water, but you do you, people.
And we do have flat water for you there, so we’re all good.
But I do like it. I’m just saying it’s not my style. I’ll have it sometimes.
Jeff Sarris: Sure! And you have the Jill-size jar and I have the Jeff-size jar. So, always gotta stay hydrated. We will post a photo later of the difference of our sizes. You can’t tell. It’s funny because online, especially, we’re both sitting all the time within the camera. But you probably can see it a little bit here. We’ll see later, but we have some voicemails from some amazing people. We’ll get into a topic today, but I figured we start with a couple of voicemails, just ’cause, I don’t know, people in the community are so nice. I had a little call out on the Facebook page, on the Kidney Stone Prevention group.
Jill Harris: That was so sweet of you. That was so thoughtful.
Jeff Sarris: I mean, 100, this is 101 weeks in a row, which is a lot for anything. Most endeavors don’t make it past 100, whether it’s a podcast, a YouTube channel, any sort of creative endeavor, it’s really rare to cross 100 and doing one a week like we’re doing. I mean, that’s almost two years, we’re just barely under two years, which is wild.
Jill Harris: I noticed that in September, we’ll be around right around, it will be two years. So, you know, there’s something to say. And, we were talking about this earlier, about sticking to something, having grit to, you know, weather storms, no matter what’s coming. No matter what comes up in our lives and Jeff is very busy with all of his work. I’m very busy with all of my work. The fact that we have made–we’ve missed one week, I believe of this podcast, but you know, putting everything aside to tape these shows to give to the kidney stone community. It is a great big milestone. I did not know that about a 100 of something, so that’s that’s super awesome.
Jeff Sarris: Yeah, and because there’s so many podcasts, but most of them are dormant. It’s sort of surprising how many would be out there that are just quiet now. But what do you say we get into one of these voicemails? Let’s see, who do I want to go for here? Let’s start here.
The Saga of Jill’s Middle Name Continues!
Listener Voicemail: Hi, Jeff. Hi, Jill. This is Kim Margaret Murray from Naperville. I just wanted to congratulate you both for your 100th episode. And I hope you continue on a beautiful journey together. Thank you so much for all your information and have a wonderful day. Thank you again! And, congratulations! Bye-bye.
Jill Harris: Oh, Kim–so, that’s my sister–but hold on. So, I didn’t know she–I do not know who’s calling in, people. I never do. But I had this. Okay, wait, we’ve got to talk. Are we on? Hello? We’ve got to talk. Okay, so first of all, I brought this because I found this: my birth certificate. And the reason I’m bringing it up, I was gonna bring it up, I just forgot about until my sister clocked on there. She just said Kim Margaret Murray. That is not your middle name. It’s not your middle name and don’t let that old lady living downstairs from you tell you it is.
Here’s my birth certificate, people. You see those stars? See the stars? That’s no middle name. Jill Harris. Ma and Kim–and Kim go get your birth certificate. You probably don’t have it, but I have mine. We don’t have a middle name. So I’m standing by my original claim that mom is not very creative. And that’s the end of that story, so that solves does Jill have a middle name or not. And also, Kim, thank you for your call, but you also do not have a middle name. Okay, that’s my take on that. But that was so sweet that she called! It was unexpected.
Jeff Sarris: I love that she through the second name in there!
Jill Harris: Me and my family, God help us.
Jeff Sarris: But it’s fun! I really like it. So, along those lines, let me just play one more for right now.
Listener Voicemail: Hi Jill, it’s Mickey. Mom made me do this, just so you know. But I want to wish you continued success for you and Jeff on your 100th Episode–
Jill Harris: Do you hear in the background prompting him?
Listener Voicemail: The best for both of you! Take care!
Jill Harris: Yes, that’s my stepfather. I’m glad we caught them on a day where they’re all not drunk, so that’s a bonus. Well, that’s a bonus. I heard my mother in the background, “And Jeff. Say ‘And Jeff.'” God bless him, he can’t do anything by himself without her chipping in. So, Mike, thank you very much for that.
Jeff Sarris: Yeah, it’s really sweet. And I’ll play a few more a little later, but we were going to talk sort of about, what was the topic we’re going to talk about? I’ll let you lead into it.
Don’t Forget to Celebrate the Small Wins
Jill Harris: Well, so we had two that we were kind of thinking about. This kind of falls under our lifestyle category. So, you know, we call this podcast, “Kidney Stone Diet and living your best life,” because, in order to eat healthy and live a healthier life, there’s a whole bunch of other things that have to happen. If it was just about eating lettuce, then this would be the most boring career I’ve ever had in my life. This is about how do you get to where you need to go? How do you stay on the path? So, Jeff wanted to talk about grit, and I wanted to talk about, you know, celebrating the little things in life, but they coincide, right? So, in order to get to 100 episodes, you have to be grateful. You have to realize all the things you’ve just been through to get there and, also, you’ve got to stick to things even though there’s some days, you may not want to do it there.
There’s some days that Jeff doesn’t feel well, or I won’t feel well, but we’re going to show up for this podcast no matter what. We’re going to put a happy face on and we’re going to do it. So, sometimes you have to fake it till you make it in life and that’s okay. I think mostly one of the things that we don’t pay attention to in life–and this is how we get grit–we have to take note of all the things that we do get done, or we do well. Instead of always focusing on the things that, “I can’t believe I screwed that up,” or, “Oh my god, this didn’t go my way.” It’s easy to focus on stuff like that and forget about all the small wins that you have every day, but I just think–like celebrating the 100th episode, that’s a big deal. So we could have just gone and not celebrated it, but I think it’s not just for us that we’re celebrating it. It’s for everybody in the community.
We’re still here after 100 episodes. The world isn’t upside down, but we’re still here, and we’re all together, and we’re learning, and we’re putting and getting information out there so people can live a better life. It’s not easy to do that, but knowing how much we’re making a difference in other people’s lives, that’s what keeps you going, and that’s celebrating wins every single week. Every time you guys comment or call in, that just fills us up to go, and get motivated, and do more. So when you celebrate small wins, it will help you stay fueled, energized, keep going, staying on track where you need less grit, really. So, I mean, you’ll use less grit because you’re so happy that you’re celebrating all these small wins. Does that make sense to you?
Jeff Sarris: It definitely does. You’re having little goals along the way, like, little things you can aspire to reach, or moments you can look forward to even because, like, this is two years, this is a long time. It’s hard to stick to something for such a long time, but having that little checkmark in our minds like, “We’re gonna publish an episode every week,” it’s something that when we do, we’ve accomplished something else sort of within our control, but also something that might feel daunting. I mean, starting the first episode, that was a lot. It wasn’t just, “let’s do this,” and then 10 minutes later, we had a show. It took time. It took some, maybe some coercing, too, not in a negative way, but this isn’t something you’ve done before. Like, I had only been doing it for a few months on my other show. So it is–
Jill Harris: So you guys know, this is something I never planned. Jeff and Dave were like–the other partner in our Kidney Stone Diet–”You know, you might want to think about this.” And, you know, I’m old people, so I always tell people, “You know, you don’t get something in your mind or someone suggests something and then the next day you do it.” Most of us are not like that, myself included. This is why I always have a lot of empathy for people trying to make change. Somebody could have told me something for a while and I have to then come to it on my own, really absorb it, and make myself ready because when you’re already a busy person than to add something else to our plates, that’s a big deal, right?
How to Practice Accountability
But here’s what’s so exciting! Wait, hold on, I get so excited. Here’s what’s so great about that: once you do make room in your heart for the new said thing, then you’re just like–well, what makes me so happy about that is when you prioritize something, if you’re not ready for it, could be a whole bunch of different reasons, who knows, good, bad, whatever. But the thing is, once you are ready, and it opens up, and you do it, and you’re so grateful that you did do it, and then you learn from that, and you’re like, “Damn, remember when I’d really didn’t want to do that, Jeff, and you said, we should start a YouTube channel, and then I don’t know, Jeff, I don’t know.” And then we do it, and next thing you know, it’s 100 episodes later. So there’s that.
But then there’s also, “Remember, Jill, when you didn’t want to do that one thing and then it worked out really great, and you did have room in your schedule for it?” Then you can go back on that and then you could start another new thing going, “Well, that worked out okay, so let’s do this.” So it makes you more open hearted, to change and bringing new things in. Also, for all of you that are like, “I don’t want to follow her stupid diet. She and that stupid Kidney Stone Diet. I hate her and I hate it,” it’s because you’re just not ready. So, don’t force yourself, people. You do what you want to do. You’d be surprised how all of a sudden time just opens up, when you really make a decision that you want to do something.
“Jill, I don’t want a meal plan.” So, Jill made me a plan service. And, again, so you know, Jeff pushed me towards that as well. I didn’t want to do it. So, it’s not like I don’t understand that you guys don’t want to do things, I get it. But once you do make the room and you start the new thing, and you start that path, well, time all of a sudden opens up. So don’t be telling me that you don’t want to do this, this, and this because you have no time because that’s just an excuse. When you are ready to do something, time opens up. I don’t know what I just said, but there you go.
Jeff Sarris: Once it becomes a habit, too, it’s not only the checkbox of “I achieved this,” but it almost hurts to not do it because it’s like, “I’ve done this for so long,” like this positive thing. We can have negative habits, of course, but a positive habit like us coming to the show, maybe someone looking at their sodium for the day, or getting enough water for the day, like those are positive habits that maybe you’re tracking that little check mark on the calendar and it’s like, “Oh, I have three days in a row. I’m not going to miss the fourth.” It’s like you’re holding yourself more accountable for it.
There’s a little habit hack that I kind of like where I know someone, Matt D Avella, he has a YouTube channel and things, and what he does is for working out, he has his calendar, and he has a rule that he’ll never have two days in a row that he misses. So, it’s just such a simple thing, but “I have an x here. I missed Tuesday. I’m not gonna miss Wednesday,” because I’m never going to have two in a row. I’ve never had two in a row for so many days, so many years, whatever it is. You’re holding yourself accountable in a way that’s it’s artificial, but it’s also powerful because it’s coming from within.
Jill Harris: Absolutely, and I love that. People always ask me, “Well, what’s the best way to stay accountable? What’s the best diet? What’s this? What’s that?” It’s the one that works for you, whatever that is. Some people will love apps, other people will get, you know, a legal pad. Everybody has their different things. It’s always great to research “habit hacks,” or things like that because what works for that guy may or may not work for you, so find the things that work for you so you can be long-term compliant. The other thing is this, the longer you do something, like you said, it just becomes a habit. Especially if you’re on the Kidney Stone Diet or following whatever healthy regimen you are–which I don’t know why you would follow anything but the Kidney Stone Diet, quite frankly, because it’s extremely healthy low salt, low sugar, but anyway–when you don’t follow it, when you do have a day that you just went to pure debauchery, you’re like, “Oh my god, I can’t swallow. I’m so thirsty. I’m so bloated. My dungarees don’t fit no more.” Yes, that’s how old I am, dungarees.
You know, so you’re just like, “Oh, I can’t wait to get back to my lifestyle.” It’s not something that you’re like, “Oh, look at my plate. I gotta eat this again?” Like everything that we eat, the three of us as healthy people, we love our food. I’m not eating things, and it makes me sad, right? So when you do fall off the wagon for a day or two, you’re so excited to get back to your regimen. When people are like, you know, I went on vacation, I couldn’t wait to get back on the Kidney Stone Diet, it’s because they feel good! It’s not because they’re eaten friggin’ broccoli and not eating a Cheeto. That’s not it. They feel better when they eat better and that’s the beauty of this!
We’re not telling you just to do this because it’s the right thing to do, or the wrong thing to do, or you’ll look adorable in your bikini. No one cares about that. We’re telling you to do it because you will feel better; you will lessen your stone risk; if you need to, you’ll lose weight; you can lower your hypertension; you can lower your A1C. There’s so many great things that come from this. When you get the good stuff, well, that, too, is motivating, right? That’s what keeps you on track, too, because you’re chasing that outcome of feeling friggin’ good, right?
Jeff Sarris: Definitely! And that’s the thing, too, because when it comes down to the feeling, and it’s more common to have a weight loss goal and be like, “I want to lose X number of pounds,” but even when it comes to that, and working out, usually they’ll do measurements. Like, “Oh, you’re working out now, you only lost three pounds, but maybe the the inches changed.” So it’s changing the perspective where when you feel better, and when feeling better is the main goal, it’s so powerful and such an internal motivation. You can go so far when you find that because it’s hard to find that, too. There’s so much snake oil, and pills, and things that promise it, but when you actually find it, and it’s true, and you know, it’s true, and it works, and it consistently works, whether you just had the night of debauchery or whatever, like you mentioned, you know, you can always go back there and get back to that feeling. It’s huge.
Jill Harris: It’s huge! I think one of the reasons we don’t hang out a lot in person is because I’d be pumping out of this chair all the time because every time you say something, I’m like “yeah, right! And I can say this, and this, and this now, right?” I think also–as far as weight loss because so many of my patients come to me for weight loss as well, and, guess what? They go on the Kidney Stone Diet because, if you’re on a low salt, low sugar diet, or ain’t eatin’ a lot of shit. I mean, that’s just how it is, right? So what’s really great is, if I just hung out a shingle on my house and said, “Weight loss,” you know, it would not be satisfying to me because, mostly, people don’t keep weight off. It was for a certain time because they wanted to look cute on Easter Sunday or whatever, whatever their thing was, right? And then they gain it back because they went on some kind of crazy fad diet. They did not learn how to eat properly.
And this is way more than kidney stones. I’m trying to teach people how to eat properly, and no bull-do, meaning it’s going to be hard. It’s hard to be compliant, at first, but once you get past those times it will become your lifestyle. We’re putting health around a diet, so people are successful who come to me and work with me because they’re very motivated to never have another kidney stone again. So, if I’m dealing with somebody named Bob, and he weighs 300 pounds, and he’s tried to lose weight his whole life, but he couldn’t stick to anything, it’s because he really didn’t have anything to do it for. He was happy eatin’ his pork rinds and drinking his Pabst Blue Ribbon or whatever. So it was like, you know, he didn’t have anything, and then he gets a kidney stone, or then he gets diabetes, or then he has a heart attack and all of a sudden you’re like, “Holy Bragoli, it’s time to get to steppin’!”
So it’s not that I’m so great, okay, it’s that people are really motivated and they’re very successful, because they’re working very hard. They take my information, take our information from YouTube, and they really put it to use because they’re like, “I am never going through that, again.” It’s not about losing weight. They will lose weight now because they’re going to learn how to eat properly, but the kidney stone was the motivating force. Pain is a huge motivation to people, right? You never want to go through that again. Once you start shooting yourself with insulin, all of a sudden, you’ll be like, “Yeah, maybe I’ll watch my sugar.” We talk about weight and, you know, going on diets to lose weight, and I just think weight is filled with negative stuff: guilt, shame, and failure, and all this stuff. When we peg it around feeling better, people are motivated. And it’s a real goal.
It’s not to look skinny, who gives a damn about that? People want to look good, of course, but that’s a nice side effect from doing the Kidney Stone Diet. It’s more about the lifestyle you’re gonna lead. Jeff and I always seem happy and up, well, I don’t know, this is how I think of us. Maybe you don’t, I don’t know, but that’s how I think we come off. It is because we take care of ourselves. You can’t feel good up here, and your body cannot feel good and move the way, it wants to and all that stuff if you don’t treat it properly, and move it, and nourish it. That’s what this is about. It’s not about doing cleanses. It’s not about doing a 30 day fast. It’s not about that. It’s about learning how to eat like a mature grown-up and stop eating like a child. It’s ridiculous. And we also shouldn’t be having our children eat like that either, by the way, but anyway, I digress as always.
Jeff Sarris: No, that’s perfect. I think we should play a couple more of these voicemails here, though. I don’t want to leave them hanging. So I’m going to start with this one.
Listener Voicemail: Hi, Jeff. Hi, Jill Margaret. We did it! We did it! 100 episodes! Wonderful. God bless you both. You put your heart and soul into this journey that you’ve been on. We have to thank so many people, like Dr. Coe, who’s been a mentor to Jill, who’s been like a dad to Jill, who’s helped Jill all these years. You both have done so much work. And Jeff, especially you, for putting up with this Jill Margaret, how you let her go on and on about how all her life, she didn’t have a middle name. She was told she didn’t have…, and you should do an episode about the middle names. No. We don’t care about middle names. We care about kidney stones. Now, Jill, relax. I know what you’re thinking. You’re saying, “Listen, old lady! What do you mean “we?” This is Jeff and me. This is no “we.” Well, let me remind you, honey, without me, there is no you. Congratulations. Love you both. Mom.
Jill Harris: I mean, first of all, thank you, mom. Second of all, the middle names you could stop with the Jill Margaret. You’re not fooling nobody no more. The jig is up, as you would say. I am not surprised at all that you say “we” because I know you feel you are the show and I think our viewers also think you’re on the show. So no one’s surprised by any of that. But I will say this: it was very important that you brought up Dr. Fred Coe. He is like a father to me. My career is based upon all his work and I would be nothing without him. So, Fred, I love you. He doesn’t listen to the show. He’s too busy researching something at 86 years old. He doesn’t care about my show–our show, but he is a force to be reckoned with. He’ll be 86 or 87. I don’t even know, but he’s way up there. Seven days a week working on kidney stone stuff, working on his website at kidneystone.edu dot– what is it, Jeff?
Jeff Sarris: Yeah, kidneystone.uchicago.edu.
Jill Harris: You see, I have nothing without Jeff. Nothing! And also Fred, so, look, he’s the granddaddy of kidney stone prevention and we wouldn’t be here if he wasn’t here, so it just goes like that. And Ma, yeah, you’re the best. I love you, you know that. You’re an integral part of the show.
Jeff Sarris: Absolutely. Yeah. So much fun, whenever she leaves a voicemail. It’s just great. Let me see what else because there are a couple more I wanted to play and then we’ll probably end up wrapping soon because we’re gonna record a few like we normally do. But let’s–
Finally, A Big Thank You to Our KSD Community!
Listener Voicemail: Oh, my goodness. Are you kidding me? 100 episodes. This is Pam from the Facebook group. Just calling to congratulate Jill and Jeff on 100 episodes! That is so incredibly exciting and I can honestly say I’ve seen all 100 of them. I just wanted to tell you, Jill, that you are amazing, and awesome, and this little thing that happened this past week is a perfect example of why I love you so much. You put a video on the Facebook page of you sitting there drinking a protein shake and saying, “Somebody told me people said you couldn’t drink protein shakes. I never said that,” while you’re drinking a protein shake. It’s just that snarky sense of humor you have that I relate to so well because it’s exactly how I am. I’m so happy I found you, thousands of people are so happy they found you, and I just wanted to say congratulations. I hope you have a wonderful day. And yeah, that’s it. Talk to you soon. Bye!
Jill Harris: Okay, Pam is a very valued member on the Facebook page and the Facebook page is called–it’s a private group because people post their medical information there, they’ll say stuff about their kidney stone stuff, so I made it private. You have to be accepted to get into it, “Kidney Stone Prevention Diet” on Facebook or something like that. Anyway, Pam is the kind of person that once she needs to do something, she just takes the bull by the horns and she’s a very active member on that page. I mean, when I’m not on the page, there’s many people on that page that write and give the correct answer because whether they’ve worked with me, or they just stayed on the page to get the right information, or, like Pam, watched every YouTube show that we put on–so she’s a wonderful member of our Facebook page. She’s very helpful to me, period. So, thanks, Pam, we love you and we appreciate you calling in. It was very sweet of you.
Jeff Sarris: Super sweet! And thank you to everyone who called in. I don’t want to just play all voicemails for the episode, but we really appreciate each and every one of you who called in. And everyone who just calls in questions! People who have liked and commented, and shared this with others, and people who are in the Facebook group, like you mentioned–every little bit helps because we want to reach as many people as we possibly can with the show, with the platform and help in any way that works for them. Some people only watch videos, some people only listen, some people only read, so we have the blog and the email newsletter. It’s just so important because if it’s just the two of us, the three of us, or the three of us with Dave, whatever it is, we’re just talking to ourselves. If we don’t have the community out there engaging with us, with each other, and sharing, we don’t have anything. So, just thank you to everyone.
Jill Harris: I can’t stress that enough. What we’re here to do is to foster a community. That’s very important for us. It’s especially important for me, since I’m answering all these questions and stuff and I thrive off of it because, as a nurse, I’ve dedicated my career to helping people, so you want to know that you’re making a difference. There’s never a day that goes by where I don’t feel that. So what what we give out to the community, I think we get 500 times back, so it’s very rewarding for us. I want everyone to know who’s watching and who does comment and participates in the show, I can’t tell you how it fills up our hearts here and how much it means to us: your support, and your love, and your generosity of kind words.
I just feel, and I know Jeff feels like this, and since he’s right there, he can say it himself, but I just feel like I have when I wake up, I really can’t wait to get to work. I feel like I’ve been blessed from the heavens for this beautiful career that I have. I do owe it to Dr. Coe. He started me on this route. And just all the wonderful people I owe it to this whole community, so I want to thank everybody. There’s many things with our business that I wouldn’t be here without Amara, Jeff, and Dave, so thank you very much to you as well.
Jeff Sarris: I mean, thank you because you’re the driving force making all of this happen and making so much change for so many people for decades. I mean, it is amazing. Like I’m just in awe of everything you’ve done and continue to do so, it’s huge. I’m just so excited and happy to be a part of it and do what we can to help in in our own way.
Jill Harris: Thank you. I mean that from the bottom of my heart–I mean, Oh God, please don’t let the old lady cry ’cause that could be happening! I wouldn’t be in a lot of the places I am without Jeff, Dave, and Amara, so I want everyone to know that because I just wouldn’t, so thank you from the bottom of my heart. All of you. I appreciate it.
Jeff Sarris: So, cheers! Cheers! This has been great. Here’s to the 100 episodes.
Jill Harris: Cheers! And thank you everybody for being here with us. We appreciate your love and support.
Jeff Sarris: Thank you so much! And, if you have any questions, 773-789-8763. We’ll have you on a future episode, but this has been great. We’re gonna keep going.
Jill Harris: We’re going to keep going, baby.
Amara Andrew: Love you, Jill!
Jill Harris: Love you, Amara! Bye!