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Home » Blog » Can I Prevent Kidney Stones with Chanca Piedra?

Can I Prevent Kidney Stones with Chanca Piedra?

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Jill Harris, LPN, CHC

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December 5, 2025

What is Chanca Piedra?

Chanca piedra is an herb (Phyllanthus niruri). In Spanish, the name means “stone breaker,” which is fantastic marketing. It’s used in traditional medicine in parts of South America, Asia, and India for the treatment of kidney stones and liver problems.

You can find it as tea, capsules, liquid drops, and “stone breaker” blends online. None of these are regulated like prescription medicines. Dose and purity can vary a lot from brand to brand.

What does the science actually say?

A few small human studies have examined Phyllanthus niruri in people with stones. Some showed:

  • Small stones or fragments (usually under 10 mm) were more likely to leave the kidney.
  • Stone burden sometimes went down a bit.
  • A few urine chemistry changes popped up (lower calcium or oxalate).

Sounds promising. Here’s the catch:

The studies were small.

They were short.

Some lacked proper control groups.

And everyone was also drinking tons of water and following urology instructions (dietary changes).

A 2020 systematic review found modest benefits—but emphasized that the evidence is limited and of low quality—same conclusion as a 2025 review. Interesting herb? Yes. Proven, reliable treatment? No.

That’s why big urology guidelines do not recommend chanca piedra as standard therapy. They stick with what we know works: fluids, diet changes, medications like tamsulosin (aka Flomax, when appropriate), and imaging to determine what we’re dealing with.

Does it relax the ureter?

Possibly. Lab and animal studies show Phyllanthus niruri can relax smooth muscle in the urinary tract. A more relaxed ureter might help a small stone slide out. But this is early-stage science—not enough to base your whole medical plan on.


So why do so many people swear it works?

Because most small stones pass on their own, stones under 5 mm have a 70–90% chance of coming out without surgery.


What happens in real life?

Patient is in pain.

They’re told, “Drink a ton of water, move, and let’s see if it passes.”

They go home and:

  • They pace the hallway.
  • They are chugging water like their life depends on it.
  • They might be taking tamsulosin (Flowmax) or other meds from their urologist.
  • They add chanca piedra tea because a friend, TikTok, Amazon, or Dr. Google told them to.

Then, three days later, the stone passes.

The brain LOVES a clean story. It does not say, “Ah, yes, the natural history of small ureteral calculi plus aggressive hydration and gravity.” It says, “I started the tea. Then the stone came out. The tea worked.”

We seldom hear from all the people who drank the tea and still needed surgery (but I hear about this fact in my consults). We mostly hear the miracle stories – that’s human nature, and it’s also how stories spread online.

So, can I say chanca piedra never helped anyone pass a stone? No.

Is it the reason every person passed their stone? Absolutely not.

We rarely hear from all the people who drank the tea and still wound up in surgery. Humans remember miracles—not the majority of quiet, uneventful “it passed when it was ready” cases.

Now I need to pause and underline the part no one ever mentions:

I have had patients wind up in the hospital with sepsis because they were waiting for chanca piedra to “break up” their stone.

These were people with obstructing stones who delayed treatment because they genuinely believed the tea would take care of it. Meanwhile, the stone wasn’t moving, urine wasn’t draining, bacteria built up, and infection set in. You can see why I have the opinion I do.

Sepsis is life-threatening.

Patients can die from this.

I’ve seen it up close, and I don’t ever want one of you in that position.

This is exactly why I always say: Don’t rely on an herb to do a job that requires medical attention.

Herbal supplements are not harmful in themselves most of the time, but waiting on a supplement instead of getting proper care can be extremely dangerous.

Is chanca piedra safe?

Short-term studies look okay, but:

  • Brands vary wildly.
  • It’s not standardized.
  • Contaminants are possible.
  • And we don’t have long-term safety data.

There’s even a published case of liver injury linked to a “stone breaker wine.” Better now? Yes. But again, things sold online are not regulated the way people assume.

Should you use it to prevent stones?

Here’s where I draw the firmest line:

We do not have high-quality evidence that chanca piedra prevents stones in the long term.

We do have excellent evidence that the approach below works (there are many studies for each of these topics; I’m providing just one link so as not to overburden you. Feel free to look them up yourself)

  • Increase Fluids
  • Reduce Sodium
  • Reduce Added Sugar
  • Get Daily Calcium Needs Met
  • Eat Moderating Animal Protein
  • Managing Oxalate Properly
  • And most importantly, get a 24-hour urine test to match your prevention plan to your chemistry

Herbs can’t fix the underlying lifestyle drivers. But the Kidney Stone Diet can—and does, every day.

Where do I land as your kidney stone nurse?

If you say, “My 3 mm stone passed after I drank the tea.”

I say: “I’m thrilled you’re okay.”

But if you ask: “Should I rely on chanca piedra to pass or prevent stones?”

My answer stays the same: “We don’t have the science.”

The risks of delay are real.

And the basics still matter the most.

My job is to teach you how to prevent kidney stones so you never form another and don’t need to search the internet for quick fixes!

If you want help lowering risk with the tools that actually help you prevent kidney stones, everything you need is here: https://kidneystonediet.com/

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Jill Harris is a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) who specializes in kidney stone prevention. Her goal is to teach you what you need to know and, more importantly, how to put that knowledge to work so you can stop forming stones. For good.
  1. Edward Rodriguez Avatar
    Edward Rodriguez
    December 6, 2025

    I didn’t know what this substance was when I read the title of your article, so I looked it up. As I started reading the information I knew exactly what you were going to say and I was right. You have to love these miracle cures. Really appreciate you and your work to keep us on the straight and narrow and to debunk all of these snake oil cures.

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  2. Carole Denneny Avatar
    Carole Denneny
    December 6, 2025

    I read your article Jill. I know 3 people who have taken Chanca Piedra and have kept kidney stones at bay! That has to mean something. I’ve had 2 surgeries in the past 2 months to remove kidney stones. Yes, I’m going to continue to drink a lot of water and yes I’m going to be mindful of my diet. Yes I will take one tablet of Chanca Piedra every day. I mean what can it hurt?
    Btw, I just finished reading “Toxic Superfoods “ by Sally K.Norton. It scared the hell out of me. I’m wondering if you have read it.

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      H Davis
      December 6, 2025

      Keep in mind that Sally Norton is an extremist. Many of us got here by being extremists in one way or another. For me it was very little calcium & extremely inconsistent water combined with years of too much salt & sugar followed by years of Vast quantities of almonds, spinach, carrots, cocoa & cacao powders. After ending up in ER with a stone and kidneys full of a bunch more, I went super low oxalate. This with multiple food intolerances made it tricky to eat. Jill’s recommendations have helped me find balanced ways to eat while keeping stones at bay.
      Jill & her mentor Dr Coe are medical specialists with decades of experience in kidney stone treatment & prevention. The Chanca Piedra can hurt only if its fake, contaminated, you have an atypical reaction to it and/or you rely on it instead of balanced consistent use of the medical specialists very simple recommendations 😉

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    2. Faith Dukor-Chaplick Avatar
      Faith Dukor-Chaplick
      December 6, 2025

      Three people is not scientific proof. Were these people drinking chanca piedra tea in addition to their regular fluids, thereby increasing their fluid intake?

      It reminds me of the “beer cure” for kidney stones: “I had kidney stone pain, so I drank a six-pack and the stone passed!” Well, yeah, an additional 72 ounces of fluid could definitely help.

      Correlation does not necessarily mean causation. I think Jill already addressed your concerns.

      Following the KSD guidelines and goals will contribute to long term success. A 24 hour urine collection will pinpoint why your body makes stones, and you may require specific adjustments and tweaks.

      I hope you find the answers you need to avoid kidney stone surgery. Stones and surgery are not fun. We all understand. We’ve all been there.

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    3. Jill Harris, LPN, CHC Avatar
      Jill Harris, LPN, CHC
      December 6, 2025

      Yes, I know about her book and yes, I get many people who form stones bc of following her guidelines. They get uric acid stones bc of all the meat they consume. Darn shame.

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  3. Sharon Avatar
    Sharon
    December 6, 2025

    I understand that Chanca Piedra can alkalize/citratize your urine… so if your urine is already higher in the citrate and ph area that Chanca Piedra change your chemistry changing you from calcium oxalate stones to calcium phosphate. And, the calcium phosphates grow aggressively in that environment.. fast and big. Is that true?

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  4. Jill Harris, LPN, CHC Avatar
    Jill Harris, LPN, CHC
    December 6, 2025

    Yes, I know about her book and yes, I get many people who form stones bc of following her guidelines. They get uric acid stones bc of all the meat they consume. Darn shame. If you would like to consume the tea, that is certainly your choice. But again, while you follow the KSD guildelines which includes plenty of fluids, you will never really be able to say the tea prevented them. It is also fluids. But from all I can see there is no harm in it except in the cases I outlined in the article. j

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    1. Maria Avatar
      Maria
      December 24, 2025

      Thank you, Jill. I have followed your advice for the last five years and have not formed another stone! My first and only stone began to form because of my (unknown at the time) high oxalate diet. I was having a lot of pain even though it was only 2 mm. With the support of a tincture of chanca piedra, the stone passed. Increasing fluids along did not alleviate the stone, but after several days taking chanca piedra I notice the pain increased (although still tolerable with no signs of obstruction) and then it was gone! Thanks for all that you do to educate and build a supportive community. You’re the best! Happy Holidays! Maria

      Reply
      1. Jill Harris, LPN, CHC Avatar
        Jill Harris, LPN, CHC
        March 17, 2026

        Hi Maria,
        Glad you passed the stone.
        j

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  5. JoAnne Avatar
    JoAnne
    December 6, 2025

    Thank you precious lady for all the work you put in to help us avoid another painful experience.

    Magic bullets don’t exist, we all need to do our part to stay healthy and out of the hospitals. AND with your help, we can all do just that.

    God Bless you sister

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  6. Lanette Pulizzi Avatar
    Lanette Pulizzi
    December 8, 2025

    I have used Chanca Piedra for years and would have sworn by it until I ended up in the Er with a large almost shaped stone an a “collection of smaller stones” that wouldn’t pass because of the larger one. I had fever and nausea. After the surgery ALL stones were gone and now I’m waiting for the DR to order my 24 hr urine test so I can find a true way to keep my body from forming stones. I wish it was the miracle cure I had believed but it’s not.

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  7. Jerry D McLean Avatar
    Jerry D McLean
    December 8, 2025

    Hi Jill, I’ve been following you concerning stones for some time. Thank you for the guidance. I am a 67 yr old man, have had kidney stones most of my life. On the subject of Chanca Piedra, (I now call it “seed under leaf”) as I travel every year for past 15 to South America, where I know elders that are the ones who sugested this herb. In your report, you talk about Sepsis. Very concerning for sure. But you mentionned also “Brands”. So I assume your talking about manufactured supplements. I don’t trust those whatsoever for sure. But I get the plant fresh from the ground, put some in hot water and let it “draw” naturally. Would this be a safer way to consumer this herb in your opinion? I have a tendancy to beleive the elders of the caribbean, as they swear by it’s affects. BTW I have had sugery a year ago and do follow all advice (well, 90%) of dietary changes. ie: calcium intake when consuming (some) oxalates, to bind together and pass the oxalates in stool rather than urine. So, what is youre opinion on this herb when taken fresh? I am now even growing it at home, in Canada. Another incredible herb when taken fresh is Neem leafs.

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    1. Jill Harris, LPN, CHC Avatar
      Jill Harris, LPN, CHC
      March 17, 2026

      Hi Jerry,
      More than likely it is all those dietary changes you made that has helped, and that is the most natural way to prevent stones. I know there is a bit of lit that says the tea can dilate your ureters a bit to help the stone pass. But the tea will not “break” up stones. I don’t have an opinion on the fresh leaves simply because my expertise lies in the diet.
      j

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  8. Jennifer McArdle Avatar
    Jennifer McArdle
    December 11, 2025

    Slightly off topic. My daughter had a kidney stone. The day before she was scheduled for surgery to remove it, she went on the I Fly thing (like indoor sky diving) with her kids. That night the stone passed by itself. Do we have a new stone removal system? lol.

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    1. Jill Harris, LPN, CHC Avatar
      Jill Harris, LPN, CHC
      March 17, 2026

      hi Jennifer,
      Stones can pass at anytime with any random movement! Glad your daughters did!
      j

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  9. Maria Avatar
    Maria
    December 24, 2025

    Thank you, Jill. I have followed your advice for the last five years and have not formed another stone! My first and only stone began to form because of my (unknown at the time) high oxalate diet. I was having a lot of pain even though it was only 2 mm. With the support of a tincture of chanca piedra, the stone passed. Increasing fluids along did not alleviate the stone, but after several days taking chanca piedra I notice the pain increased (although still tolerable with no signs of obstruction) and then it was gone! Thanks for all that you do to educate and build a supportive community. You’re the best! Happy Holidays! Maria

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